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Old Ironsights
03-02-06, 20:15
The State of Indiana is considering a RIFLE season... all be it mostly for Lever Action (1860-1899 model only) rifles.

http://www.in.gov/apps/lsa/session/billwatch/billinfo?year=2006&session=1&request=getBill&docno=0263&doctype=SB

IMO this is a good thing mainly because it begins to bring Indiana into some sort of ballistic consistancy in their Deer Regs. (why can you use a 4" .357 pistol or a 7mm TC pistol but not a 16" .357, .44, .45LC, or .454 lever???)

The standard, non spire/boattail lever cartridges are essentially 200yd max loads... the same we get with our muzzle loaders and well-apportioned slug-guns. Why not allow tube-fed lever-gun calibers be used for deer season?

Time for some political activisim guys. This bill's a keeper.

It's in Senate Natural Resourcees Committee now. Time for some Emails.

aku94
03-13-06, 17:53
That would seem to allow some of the most prolific hunitng rifles that are in production now to be used, such as the 1894 .30-30 Winchester. Awsome! S. 263 woulod definetely make a very interesting hunitng season. I think it would be nice if the allowed bolt guns as well, since they did exist during that era. There were Mosin M1891's made, some early Mausers, Krags, etc... It's still a step in the right decision. Maybe some guns that would normally only see the wall, gun locker, or range can actually meet the field (again).

Old Ironsights
03-14-06, 07:39
That would seem to allow some of the most prolific hunitng rifles that are in production now to be used, such as the 1894 .30-30 Winchester. Awsome! S. 263 woulod definetely make a very interesting hunitng season. I think it would be nice if the allowed bolt guns as well, since they did exist during that era. There were Mosin M1891's made, some early Mausers, Krags, etc... It's still a step in the right decision. Maybe some guns that would normally only see the wall, gun locker, or range can actually meet the field (again).

It's not the "age" so much as the cartridge. Bolts use spitzers - which means too much range for Indiana Woodlots.

Tube-fed Levers use flat-point/round nose "short range" cartridges - even in the "bigbores" like .45-70.

Notice that box-fed levers like the Savage 99 are excluded for that very reason.

This might make some Contender shooters mad - if the new law also has the effect of making spitzer-rifle-caliber "pistol" (hand rifle) hunting illegal, but the net benefit will be huge.

aku94
03-14-06, 12:51
It's not the "age" so much as the cartridge. Bolts use spitzers - which means too much range for Indiana Woodlots.

Tube-fed Levers use flat-point/round nose "short range" cartridges - even in the "bigbores" like .45-70.

Notice that box-fed levers like the Savage 99 are excluded for that very reason.

This might make some Contender shooters mad - if the new law also has the effect of making spitzer-rifle-caliber "pistol" (hand rifle) hunting illegal, but the net benefit will be huge.

I Understand!
BTW, you don't want to stuff roundnose bullets into a tube magazine either. The tip can, with a centerfire, ignite the primer of the round in front of it.

Old Ironsights
03-14-06, 13:02
I Understand!
BTW, you don't want to stuff roundnose bullets into a tube magazine either. The tip can, with a centerfire, ignite the primer of the round in front of it.

Don't tell that to the guys on Leverguns.com... ;)

The biggest "missing element" in this bill IMO is that it excludes the Trapdoor Springfield. :confused:

Old Ironsights
03-21-06, 11:50
Lifetime Concealed Carry Permits in Indiana!


DIGEST OF HB1176 (Updated March 8, 2006 6:30 pm - DI 84)

Which by the way Governor Daniels will sign HB1176 into law, today(March 21st) at 3:00p.m.http://leverguns.sixgunner.com/icon_smile.gif

Handgun license renewal. Provides that the period during which an application for the renewal of a handgun license may be filed begins 180 days before the license expires. Requires the superintendent of the state police (superintendent) and local law enforcement agencies to allow an applicant desiring to obtain or renew a license to carry a handgun to submit an application electronically if federal funds are available to establish and maintain an electronic application system. Requires the superintendent to keep on file one set of fingerprints from each applicant if an electronic application system is established. Requires the state to participate in the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) for firearms sales if federal funds are available to assist the state in participating in the NICS. Repeals provisions: (1) relating to an audit of the destruction of handgun purchase records by the attorney general; (2) describing state police procedures in reference to a background check request by a handgun dealer; (3) specifying a handgun buyer's right to review and correct criminal history information; (4) establishing a criminal penalty for obtaining criminal history information under false pretenses; and (5) establishing a criminal history check fee. Permits a person to apply for and receive a lifetime handgun license. Requires a person applying for a lifetime handgun license to pay a fee of: (1) $125 for a lifetime unlimited license if the person does not currently possess a valid handgun license; (2) $100 for a lifetime unlimited license if the person currently possesses a valid handgun license; (3) $75 for a lifetime qualified license if the person does not currently possess a handgun license; and (4) $60 for a lifetime qualified license if the person currently possesses a handgun license. Provides that the local law enforcement agency that initially processes the license application retains: (1) $50 if the person does not currently possess a valid handgun license; and (2) $40 if the person currently possesses a valid handgun license; the state receives the remaining fee. Increases the fee for a four-year license to $30, and raises the fee for a replacement license to $20. Provides that handgun license fees are to be deposited in the state general fund. Provides that if revenues from handgun license fees exceed $1,100,000 during a state fiscal year, the excess is appropriated to the state police department for expenses related to the central repository for criminal history data or an electronic log to record the sale of drugs containing ephedrine or pseudoephedrine. Requires a person who may have become disqualified from holding a license to notify the superintendent within 30 days. Makes other changes and conforming amendments.